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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-20-09 WT Study (MY FRIENDS)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 12-20-09 wt study (october 15, 2009, pages 13-17)(my friends).

  review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  Blondie, YOU ROCK!

  Thanks for all that you do in contributing to this board.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Did YOU Disturb The Consciences Of Others?

  by minimus in

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  the watchtower is always saying how we have to watch everything we do or say because we just might offend somebody's conscience and lord knows we wouldn't wanna do that!.

  did you find yourself offending the consciences of others?.

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  I disturbed the conscience of the elder body when I would call on members of the congregation by their first names when I had parts at the meetings or when conducting the book/bible study.

  For example, Brother James, Sister Janice, Brother Richard, Sister Samantha... (iso using their family names, Brother Smith, Sister Jackson).

  They couldn't use the Bible to any satisfaction for their rebuttal, but only some articles from the Talmud Watchtower as their authority.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Question regarding JW and military service.

  by Alligator Wisdom in

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  does anyone know when the wts started to refused baptism for those who were enlisted as active duty in the armed forces (military)?.

  any reference material would be appreciated.. from what i remember hearing, back in the olden days (pre-50's or 60's) anyone wishing to be baptized only had to show up at a convention or assembly to get dunked.

  no questions.

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  Black Sheep (Chris) : I got your PM. Check yours.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Question regarding JW and military service.

  by Alligator Wisdom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know when the wts started to refused baptism for those who were enlisted as active duty in the armed forces (military)?.

  any reference material would be appreciated.. from what i remember hearing, back in the olden days (pre-50's or 60's) anyone wishing to be baptized only had to show up at a convention or assembly to get dunked.

  no questions.

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  Fatfreek: Those are the exact two Bible accounts that these elders are referencing to support the fact that active duty military can be baptized. However, at the same token, these elders don't think that those who are already baptized should enlist into the military. The difference being that an active duty soldier can request a conscientious objector status or just refuse to fight until his contract/term is up.

  Alwayshere: RandCam is interesting. How can this be brought up without throwing up questionable apostate flags?

  Black Sheep: Thanks for the research and reference material.

  Now who can direct me to a copy of the November 1,1939 issue of the WT magazine?

  Thanks all!

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Question regarding JW and military service.

  by Alligator Wisdom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know when the wts started to refused baptism for those who were enlisted as active duty in the armed forces (military)?.

  any reference material would be appreciated.. from what i remember hearing, back in the olden days (pre-50's or 60's) anyone wishing to be baptized only had to show up at a convention or assembly to get dunked.

  no questions.

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  Does anyone know WHEN the WTS started to refused baptism for those who were enlisted as active duty in the armed forces (military)?

  Any reference material would be appreciated.

  From what I remember hearing, back in the olden days (pre-50's or 60's) anyone wishing to be baptized only had to show up at a convention or assembly to get dunked. No questions. No monitoring. Also, weren't some Bible Students enlisted in the military when CT Russell was president. I recall that these Bible Student soldiers weren't encouraged to kill with their weapons, but rather to fire them in the air in order to not become blood guilty. So there must be something in print between the 1920's and 1950's.

  Your response would be kindly appreciated as there is a serious discussion among elders in the country of ****** regarding the neutrality issue.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Question for JW historians regarding military service

  by Alligator Wisdom in

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  * deleted *.

  i posted this topic under the wrong subject.. please see my inquiry under "beliefs, doctrines, practices".. alligator wisdom (aka brother not exerting vigorously).

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  Question for JW historians regarding military service

  by Alligator Wisdom in

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  i posted this topic under the wrong subject.. please see my inquiry under "beliefs, doctrines, practices".. alligator wisdom (aka brother not exerting vigorously).

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  I posted this topic under the wrong subject.

  Please see my inquiry under "Beliefs, Doctrines, Practices".

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Former JW Survey

  by Opus92 in

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  i'm trying to gather data on ex-jws to analyze for a statistics class.

  i'd appreciate it if you'd click the link and take my short survey.

  it's only 7 questions and is anonymous.. .

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  Done :-)
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  How Much of an Impact is Being Made by Young JW' s Leaving the Cult ?

  by flipper in

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  we have read threads where statistics show that 2 out of every 3 people raised as jehovah's witnesses eventually leave once they get in their 20's to 30's and out on their own.

  my children and my nieces and nephews are between the ages of 21 to 35 .

  out of those 8 people - 4 of them have completely stopped attending meetings .

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  Out of us 4 kids, only one got baptized (me). And I'm fading now. Haven't gone to a meeting in over three months.

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)
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  Are you content?

  by Newborn in

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  i find it hard to be content...even though i have a nice apartment, good job, good health, family and friends.

  i'm of course grateful for these things but i feel that somehow i always long for something else.

  when i'm single i want to be with someone...when i'm with someone i want to be free.

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  Alligator Wisdom

  I concur with "poppers" & "garyneal" and their suggestions.

  May I also suggest this book : "If Life Is A Game, Then These Are the Rules" by Cherie Carter Scott.

  http://www.amazon.com/Life-Game-These-Are-Rules/dp/0767902386

  Easy reading book that can be completed in one sitting (160 pages), yet it can change your outlook when it comes to contentment. Buy a used copy from Amazon for a penny plus shipping.

  More power to you "NewBorn"

  Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother NOT Exerting Vigorously)